When Purpose Gets in the Way with Daniel Mangena

Episode 27 September 30, 2021 00:35:52
When Purpose Gets in the Way with Daniel Mangena
Refractive
When Purpose Gets in the Way with Daniel Mangena

Sep 30 2021 | 00:35:52

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Johnny Guidry

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We might not realize it for years! If we aren’t staying present, pursuing our purpose gets in the way of the full, joyful life we deserve. We can get so caught up in chasing an “ideal” life purpose that sounds good on paper that we never get to actually take steps towards living it out. Daniel Mangena, best-selling author, speaker, and facilitator, reminds us that finding our purpose is pointless if we aren’t following our inner guidance all along the way. Dan describes how “purpose” is a static concept that helps us chart a path, but that our spirit, soul, or higher self doesn’t subscribe to the idea of a lifelong mission statement. Ultimately, forcing a life to fit a pre-determined or outdated purpose is frustrating, painful, and keeps us out of the flow of life and abundance.

Find more information about Dan at www.dreamwithdan.com

Find Dan’s books by clicking here and his podcast, “Do It with Dan” here.

For similarly themed episodes, try: Free Yourself from Limiting Beliefs, Guided Meditation: What’s My Purpose, or Surrender to Greatness.

For more information on host Johnny G, visit www.refractivecoaching.com.

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Speaker 0 00:00:01 Ever since you can remember, you felt something in your chest telling you to move, to love, to speak, to try day after day. You pretend you don't hear calling, or maybe you dismiss it as silliness or worse that it's there ready for you. And it will wait for you. And as long as you, my name is Johnny G and I invite you to join me on a journey of awakening. As we dare to embrace our light. This is refractive Speaker 2 00:00:46 Hello. Hello everyone. And welcome to another episode of refractive podcasts. I'm Johnny G. Today we have a guest here who has really dedicated his life to helping share some important lessons that he's learned through a series of struggles after receiving a late diagnosis of Asperger's and experiencing life shattering trauma. At the age of 20 Daniel spent seven years struggling to stay above water. And through these challenges, he built a simple four step system called the beyond intention paradigm. Through this system, Daniel found a path to joy and purpose, and he shares it with others as a tool that can help them the same way that it saved his own life. And through his books, his podcast, which is called, do it with Dan blogs, publications workshops, he's helped thousands of people around the world live a more fulfilling, meaningful, meaningful life. And he was recently named a master of success by the wall street journal. So I am so thrilled to present to everyone, Daniel manga. I welcome. Speaker 3 00:01:48 Yeah. Thank you for having me, John, even really, really excited to be here and have this conversation. Speaker 2 00:01:52 I appreciate it. So, you know, you have a really compelling story. And so many of us, I think, who have moved into this fear of trying to help others realize the magnificence, that is their true essence, the power that is their true essence, helping people step into that. We do this because we went through major transformations where we felt so diminished and so restricted by life. And then one day, bam, we were gifted with this moment where the blinders were taken off and we realized that there's a different way to live. We don't have to go through that anymore. And all you want to do. If I speak for myself, all I want to do is just help other people realize that. And it sounds like your entire, uh, this entire phase of your life is built around that. Speaker 3 00:02:47 So I like to look at my life as being like the trilogy and when the third book of the trilogy now, the first was my younger years up until I would say losing the second time when I was 23. Um, the second phase was rebuilding my life off of the back of that completely by accident, which we can get into. And then this third phase has been sharing all of that experience and continuing to grow against the backdrop of what the experience has done for me personally, too. Wow. Speaker 2 00:03:17 Amazing. And so tell me a little bit about this beyond intention paradigm, because we're going to talk about purpose and the role that purpose plays in people's lives and how sometimes we get, uh, sometimes we can trip over our own feet in trying to find out what our purpose is, but I'm very curious about this beyond intention paradigm that you have developed for yourself. Speaker 3 00:03:42 Sure thing. So it's the, the main subject of my book stepping beyond intention and my first bestseller that I, I have, we just re released a new edition of the book actually recently this year, which was really cool, uh, put fancy, fancy pants cover by Jack Canfield last year. And I had a nice quote of him say he liked my work. So we've got to put that on there. And of course it is an international bestseller. So I get to put that on the cover of the fancy things that the ego loves. Uh, so, but building attention is four steps. It really is about directing choice. Um, what do I mean by that? I personally define an intention as a disruption of whatever unconscious pattern or program I'm running on. The unconscious moves that 10,000 to 10 million times the speed of the conscious mind we're operating at the unconscious level as much as 97% of the day. Speaker 3 00:04:30 It's the daddy running the show most at the time. So in terms of the unconscious habits and behavior, that's running our life, it's generally coming from the unconscious when I want to step in and disrupt that. And that for me setting an intention. So I'm, I'm, I'm breaking whatever the status quo is with those programs. However, just setting an intention, doesn't lead to an outcome, right? Because we are not just responding to the vibrational frequency of words that have been spoken or written down. I like to look at us as, you know, mind, body, and soul, right? We are mental, spiritual, and physical. We are a body moving through time and space. We have a mental aspect of ourselves where our beliefs, uh, the, the vision that we have for ourself and the subconscious narrative stories, programs, and all that sits. But then the law even recognizes that there were crimes of passion. Speaker 3 00:05:21 There's an aspect of ourself that also can have an impact, even on our thought processes, the emotions that we're in. So all of these things sort of look together and then create what we call our experience. If I want a new outcome, I need to be sure that all of those aspects of myself are in line and working together to actually let me have a physical experience of that outcome. Okay. How do I ensure that, how do I make the shifts into having the emotional state that aligns with it, having the mindset in having the behaviors that a matter of choice choice to, to, to, to really embody back up and, and, and, and click into place, the intention that we have and beyond intention, let's move through the stock sites that we're going to experience, make those tough choices and to navigate the, uh, the obstacles, the, uh, the contrast and the polarity. That's going to show up in our life as we're on the journey to create these new outcomes. Speaker 2 00:06:18 It's amazing. And no, the thing that stands out for me is that I hear from you, um, traces of, you know, modern metaphysical, uh, thought and mystical, mystical concepts. But I also see it dovetailing in such a beautiful way with navigating this 3d world and, uh, navigating the reality that we are happened to be born in like these two ideas of, um, blossoming in earth and blossoming inside, just harmonize in a beautiful way. Speaker 3 00:07:02 Well, thank you. I mean, here's the thing, we are not just, if they're real beings floating around energy frequency waves, right. But there are aspects, measurable aspects of ourselves that do operate to that level of experience, right? Yeah. Just reading books, isn't going to create change either just learning new things and having beautiful conversations. You know, I love to use the example of, let's say, for example, I want to, I mean, I focus, my work really focuses on creating financial abundance as white. Like that's my wheelhouse. So let's say somebody wants to bring more abundance into their life. They close their eyes at this beautiful vision. They get into their heart space, they connect with the vibrational frequency of abundance and then open their eyes and go back to having thoughts and unconscious beliefs and narratives that say they're not worthy of it. And then taking actions that don't even lead anywhere close to it. Speaker 3 00:07:58 In fact, generally we'll be doing the opposite. We're taking actions from making choices to take actions from a place of lack. We are fearfully contractive, really moving through time and space from a place of lack. And then wondering why hasn't my intention shown up yet during the same vision board every year at the vision board party. I'm wondering why you have to do the same vision board every year is because the rest of it hasn't clicked into place. And even looking at the topic of purpose that we're going to speak to here. Yeah. It's all very well and good to have a beautifully written purpose. I mean, my mission statement, I'd be tweaking back and forth, you know, for years, what I think is pretty lovely. What good are they, if they just sit on the page, if they're not brought out, out off the page and brought into reality Speaker 2 00:08:39 That's right. And, you know, you mentioned something in your work that I, it really kind of stops you in your tracks, especially if you work in coaching and helping people, uh, kind of discover, cut through the noise to hear that small inner voice about like, what, what should I be doing with my hours on the planet? And, uh, you say that the obsession with discovering your purpose is actually in some cases, a distraction from living the life you're meant to live. So I'd love to hear some of the conclusions you've been able to draw as you can see that. Speaker 3 00:09:18 Well, I'd love to first say that. I don't think I've found the conclusion so much as I'm having an ongoing discussion then as yet, I haven't seen challenged to the point where I can stop having this discussion, if that makes sense. Um, let's look at purpose or for a second. I stepped back into the mystical for just a moment and start looking at, I thought we could bring some science to look at the quantum model. Okay. It's been scientifically demonstrated to be true, that there are an infinite number of possibilities available at any one time in any moment that we're in, in any, for any particle that's moving through time and space. So if there are an infinite number of possibilities and how can there only be one path for any particle in time space. Yes. And seeing as we're a combination of, you know, carbon based molecules that are comprised of particles, then how can we, if, if the, if the, the core of us that the basis, the foundation of us has infinite possibilities and how can we, as a combination of both particles not be infinitely, they'll have infinite pass of possibilities that are available to us to now, of course we have the soul that we can bring into. Speaker 3 00:10:26 If we want to go down that way, we have faith that we can bring it to that way and destiny that we can bring it to that way. But then for destiny fate, or even purpose to be something that's defined in this linear yeah. Thing that we call time, then this linear thing that we call time has to be real too. But science has also demonstrated that that's not real either. So you've got these illuminary concepts coming together to create this thing that people are spending their time focusing on, instead of just enjoying the journey that they're here to have, they're caught up trying to work out what is my purpose being on this journey. When for me, I think the point of life is to live life and to have experiences. Do I feel that there are some things that we may gravitate towards being lit up by be called to do at any one point in time? Speaker 3 00:11:11 Yes, I do. I've experienced that in my own life. I refer to that as the dream in my work, but the dream is not some one dimensional, um, my OPEC or even my OPEC. This is all I'm here to do. It's what I'm called to do in the now that I'm connected to the idea with the now moving to new now is when I have new experiences and new configurations of, of, of people, places and things I get to relate to and communicate with that can change too. And I'm open to what that is, because it can just be another part of the adventure. So do I believe that people have purposes? Yes. Do I see far too many? Not taking up any purpose at all because they're trapped looking for that one purpose. Yes. Speaker 2 00:11:59 There you go. Exactly. You know, I, as you're speaking about this, it makes me think of an image that I use a lot with clients. And I tell people that, uh, there's no better, um, teacher for us in life than puppies because a puppy, uh, not yet having been conditioned by difficulties only does what in this exact moment, it feels is most satisfying, right? And so, uh, if it wants to play, it plays, if it wants to go to the bathroom, that's what it does. If it wants to lay down, it doesn't matter if the company's over and wants to see the puppy it's laying down right here. If it is curious, it explores. If it gets a bad vibe from someone, it goes away, then, you know, and this is such a beautiful and simple way of living life to, um, learn to quiet the noise around us, to tune in to the lovely, lovely wisdom that is inside of us. And you see the challenge is to have the guts and the willingness moment after moment to only do what is out of all these million options. The one thing that feels the most loving. And I just think it's, it's wonderful. And I just felt like the concept harmonized with some of your points. And I wonder what your thoughts are. Speaker 3 00:13:40 What's so funny is that I I've got a dad ism that's, um, I feel like calling it a puppy as of now, because what I am invite us all to consider the possibility of is whether all that we really need to do is feed into what feels good and does no harm. Yes, yes. Moment to moment tuning into the humble. It feels good and does no harm. And then do that until something else pops up in a new now that says, Hey, this is what feels good and does no harm, because I do believe that we have responsibility to the people, places, things that we, that we engage with energetically. Um, but I guess the backdrop of that what's expensive right now. What's going to fill me up right now. What does my soul, my essence, the divine as me feel like it's screaming out that it wants to express right now. And I do that until that song's finished. And then sometimes I shouldn't wait for the next song and enjoy the afterglow of the dance I just had and then move on to the next one. So was at someone, Speaker 2 00:14:38 You know, I, I am very careful about, um, well, let's just say that for that model of living, I believe in it fully. And I, uh, I follow it to the best, the best of my ability, right. Uh, I get, I get caught up in the, in the layers of illusion and ambition and, you know, fears like that myself, you know, but, um, how I wonder, how do you balance the, how do you balance the only do what feels right in the now with caring for your material needs as you move forward? Speaker 3 00:15:29 Well, if caring for your material needs, doesn't feel good to you then perhaps to question what level of self love and self care that you're taking on board as well, because it feeling good, negates the need to take care of my material needs. Then there's probably some kind of disconnect there, but my thinking and the other thing is, I mean, abundance says you're both raised something that I, I, I preach a lot of, again, going back to Nate, just one, I'm so happy that you brought puppies into the mix, but if my natural state is abundance, then part and parcel of that is moving back to setting myself up, to experience a reality that reflects my natural inherent abundance shining through to so my needs being taken care of having a contract relationship to what those needs are and taking care of those so that I have the freedom mentally, emotionally, and physically to enjoy more life and doing more of, I want to do Speaker 2 00:16:23 Yes, I love it. I love it. You know, um, because it's easy for someone to reject this concept as impractical, but living life, according to your most loving, inner wisdom doesn't mean that you aren't securing an income doesn't mean that you aren't investing your time and your energy in things that will, uh, increase the flow of abundance for you. It means not doing things that don't feel right. And, and, and letting go of the mythologies that we have adopted as justifications for doing work, that we don't enjoy to make money. We don't need to live a life that was idealized by another person. Speaker 3 00:17:21 Oh, I love that. I love that. Yeah. So often we're spending time chasing after what other people, places and things are told us. We should be chasing after or rejecting journeys towards things that we do feel called to because other people have said that we can't have them, that we're not worthy of them and so on. But again, to the point, I mean, being in a conducive space to create, just make sense. Uh, when we go back to nature, nature takes care of things in an orderly fashion, right? It doesn't make the apples before the tree, we have the tree and then we get the apple nature moves. In order. When we look at the collective agreements around how we, as humans do now choose to live off, live our life. There's a natural order to those also for me to have a place to live, there must be a place to live. Speaker 3 00:18:05 I could go and live in the forest and build my own incumbent in the forest, or I can choose the easy route of having a place that I've got a mortgage. I know I've got, I've got rent that I pay for, at least that I pay. And if I choose to live life in those terms, then I also choose to take the actions in my everyday life that are going to support me, maintaining that abode for myself and those who for whom I'm responsible with and for, so that that's taken care of so that I can then be free in place of safety insecurity to go and enjoy life. It just makes sense. So once people want to rebut this argument by saying, well, what about things? Of course it includes that just makes sense. I'm not going to tell you to go run off and live in the cloud whilst there's no food in your belly. You're not going to be able to live that life for very long. What you lost two weeks without food, three weeks out food, three days without water, whatever it is just doesn't make sense. So, you know, I want to invite people before rejecting an idea, at least ensure that you're engaging with it from a place that actually makes sense and has some intelligence applied to the, to the discussion. Speaker 2 00:19:07 There you go. All right. Oh, thank you for, thank you for humoring me as we kind of looked at that sidebar from, because it is a topic of some passion for me. And when I heard you approaching it with some of your own philosophies, I just had to take advantage of that. So I placed Speaker 3 00:19:23 Into some synergy there. Speaker 2 00:19:26 So moving back into the concept of purpose, um, you have some thoughts on how to let go of the need to have one large, all encompassing purpose yet still lead a life. That is purpose-driven. What, what are some of these concepts that you've gathered? Speaker 3 00:19:48 Well, we've touched on a few of them here and now it's, you know, what is my purpose right now? Because now is all it's real anyway. Yeah. You know, projecting my purpose into a future that doesn't actually really exist beyond the thought form. I'm creating based on my expectations. I'm holding in the now, which only serve to direct me, to distract me from being present enough to experience. Now that's insanity. I'm running away from life, which is happening now to look at a life in the future that I can only really create consciously and deliberately. If I'm present enough now to take the actions to actually lead me there. So what about if I just ask here and now, what does my purpose feel like here? Now, the only place that is real, where, where do I feel that I can be of the most contribution, which is what nature does it contributes and adds to the overall, you know, more like, oh, what feels good there? And if my purpose, grandiose and wonderful and magical as it may sound or read on paper, doesn't add to that. Then what use is it including myself? Speaker 2 00:20:53 That's right. Amazing. So what are these, uh, what are these three suggestions you have of ways that, uh, we can do more to add to life rather than following that all important purpose? Speaker 3 00:21:08 I think that's number one, bringing your level of consciousness to everything that we're doing. Um, early on in my journey, um, when I was creating beyond intention, one of the, one of the inspirations for actually creating the build intention paradigm with the power of now by I call it holiday. Oh, for sure. Having Asperger's I need structure. Right. And I, I understood what he was saying, you know, reject structure. It's like, yeah, but the dude I've got Asperger's, I've got, I've got a neuro-diverse brain. I need to have enough structure to get it so that I can drop the structure. And so beyond intention was me finding a way to understand how to get into the now it's like, oh, okay. So having an understanding knowledge of yourself so that you know how to dance with realities, you can have more of a purposeful relationship to reality as a whole is also called. Speaker 3 00:21:56 So I would say in fact, before even knowing any of that, know yourself, develop a relationship with yourself. So you can think and feel with awareness, because if you can think of being with awareness, then as those messages, as those subtle, intuitive nudges and pools come through, then you're in a space to actually receive and act on them versus being in this, this conflict with yourself, is that ego, is it divine? Inspiration is if it was, well, if you know yourself, then you're gonna know what the, the subtleties are for you as to where that really sits in your body. And then from there also just dropping this idea that life is so serious. There's none of us are getting out of this alive anyway. It's like, none of us are getting out this alive. So what about if we just wrote this puppy all the way to the end and just had the most audaciously, wonderful, yummy experience and just felt into what's going to nourish an attitude that yumminess not pull away from the yumminess of others on a day to day basis? Like what feels yummy right now? What's going to fill me up today. Yes. I may have an overarching thread as to what generally it feels. Yeah. I mean, I could call that my purpose, but am I open to that being shifted by me being expanded by new inputs, new conversations, new podcasts, new books, new information. Am I open to growing in this experience and on this ride? Speaker 2 00:23:21 Yes. All right. That's amazing. I love it. You know, there's so much wisdom that's available to us. If we just look for, you know, uh, I personally believe that, uh, there's nothing I could want to know. There's nothing I could ask that I don't already know if I simply go deep enough into the stillness. Uh, because as a spark of the creator, I have access, I have access to that body of knowledge. Um, and it's just, am I willing to put the heart energy and the dedication to learning, to wield that ability, uh, to, to, to do I really want to know enough. Right. And, um, so the idea that these concepts have risen for you through the course of your own, um, not only your own struggles, but your own journey of searching as well. It's a lovely comfort that each of us has this body of knowingness that is available, um, as we search for it, you know, it's, uh, I love hearing about yours and that's, that's kind of where I land with Speaker 3 00:24:42 That. Beautiful. Thank you. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:24:46 So let me ask you then if you are, uh, uh, if you are guiding someone on how to tune in to the now, what are some of your favorite, uh, methodologies of kind of conditioning that capacity? Speaker 3 00:25:06 Well, I would say definitely we're looking at the first two steps of the build intention paradigm, which accept and clear. So except which are the first step of beyond intention invites us to come to and come to an embodiment of, of the truth that we are the author and creator of our lives, whether consciously or unconsciously, yes, we can pass the buck on that blame God, the devil, the angels who the president is, who the precedents, not, this is what's going on with global situations, but ultimately whether by design or even by, uh, by response, we are the author and creator of our experience, even if it's just in our relationship to things that are outside of our quote unquote control. Okay. When people get stuck with the idea, invite them to look at one treatment, mathematical truth, everyone's going to have to say yes to, I call it common denominator theory. Speaker 3 00:26:00 Um, I found this in my own journey when I was staring down the barrel of making a choice about suicide, which I was very, very serious about. The only reason why I didn't actually make the attempt is because I I'd been beaten down so much by life at the time that I didn't think that I'd succeed. So it was fear of failure that stopped me making a suicide attempt. And in that moment, when I set off to try and deal with that fear so that I could make an attempt without failure, at some point in the future, there was a subtle thought that didn't make sense or have the clarity that I have around it. Now, until some years later, I realized that I had to depend on me and nobody else. Nobody else could effectively pull off their suicide. For me. I was the only one that could do it. Speaker 3 00:26:42 Nobody else could impact that will make it. They might give me a pep talk, but I don't think it was going to give me a suicide pep talk. Right. And so examining that in retrospect later down with, with the power of hindsight, it was, I came to understand the mathematical truth of common denominator, which is there is nothing and no one in every single moment of your life experience, except for you. There may be some people that are there a lot of the time, some people they're there most of the time, but nobody's there for every single moment of your experience. And even if they're there for all of the external experience, even if your assignment is twin to twin, right, they'll be there for all of the physical experience, but they're not there for the mental and emotional experience. You have that. Yes. And so if I want to affect a change in my reality, the most logical drop the spirituality, drop the messages and drop these, the Terex drop the positive thinking, the only logical place that's going to have, the maximum widespread effects is you. Speaker 3 00:27:40 Yes, I've got 20 situations, 20 people. I can go and change every single one of them individually, but then I'm dependent on the change that the other person's willing to make her accept. If I change me, the substance of every single one of those situations must change to some degree. Absolutely. So that's what we start with now, once we've accepted that mantle of power, the responsibility that, that leads to power, then I understand one thing, the devil is always here. We don't have to get into the, now the, now he's always here, but we are not always here in the now, where are we when we're not now where either in the past or in the future. So step two beyond intention is actually taking physical steps to cut the ties to the past and the future so that I can return to an awareness of what I always really was, which is now, yes, that may involve hating, that may involve, uh, uh, you know, for some forgiveness you may involve some self-love, it may involve some love of others and everyone's journey is going to be individual. And there's a free resource on my website. It's called the clearing toolkit. Uh, it's an encyclopedia of tools that I've researched over the last 20 years. I've found very effective to getting back into the now, and everybody's going to have their own individual journeys, which one of those are more effective, but that's all that we're doing. We're not going something where we're remembering that we always were here and letting go of the illusion that we're anywhere else. Speaker 2 00:29:06 Exactly. Oh man. When I think about, uh, the implications of the ever-present now, uh, it is just it's mind blowing, you know, uh, even when it comes to, um, let's see exercises like trying to cleanse my energy of, you know, some negativity that I may have participated in earlier in the day, it's easy for me to just visualize, uh, moving to this other point and that ever present now where I knew that my energy was not burdened by that heaviness and say, well, now this is my energy. You know, because when, when, when, I mean, this is not the topic of our, of our, of our conversation today. But when we talk about the power of the presence, the power of the present and the implications, that time is just a useful tool for us in this life. It's just a useful tool and that there might be other types of life where time is not a useful tool. And therefore it's irrelevant. You know, there is just, there's so much perspective to gain from considering that, uh, this moment as uncomfortable as it may be is one data 0.1 data point in a larger concept of what we truly are, which is a arc of the creator experiencing itself, you know, in harnessing all of the joy, the pain, the fear, the love, all of the power that comes along with being a part of this, uh, great experiment. Thank you for bringing me. Yes, absolutely. Speaker 3 00:30:53 Yeah. I love it. I love it. And I love the call too, just to remembering that I did a workshop a little while ago, uh, for some of my mastermind members and I asked them a question, what does omnipresence mean to be everywhere all the time? What does <inaudible> mean able to do all things? What does omnipotent mean or powerful? Okay. So if the divine is omnipresent, omnipotent and powerful, and there's no way that the divine is not a no time that the divine is not, then how are you? Not the divine. Speaker 2 00:31:21 Exactly, exactly. Speaker 3 00:31:26 Yeah. When we, when we look at it from that, it's like, it's not that the divine is us. We're not the divine, the divine is us. And there's a very clear distinction, but if that's the case, then why do we keep falling into this illusion? That there's anything that we're not capable of. That there's any way that we are, that we are not in anything that we cannot, cannot be done through us. Right. And, and that just brings us, I think, to that space that you're talking about, that we are spots of the divine, having this experience in this experiment, the job of water, isn't the ocean, but the ocean is in the drop of water, right. But sometimes the war maybe get special up by a boat. And he says, oh my God. Speaker 3 00:32:12 And then it clicks back at some point, as we all do, we'll return back to complete estate, whatever that means for, for you, whether it's returning the wisdom of the divine or, you know, to general, whatever it is for you, with your, with your faith or your belief, we are still returning back to a completed state. We're leaving the physical form and dropping the illusionary guide that we put on to play a role in a movie that at some point we're going to live back on from some point of, in level of consciousness and say, oh, that was interesting. Speaker 2 00:32:39 I am on board, I'm on board. I'm buying a ticket. I'm down. Let me ask you Dan, if, um, if listeners are interested in learning more about your life's work, learning more about what you offer, uh, maybe they are inspired by some of the lessons you've shared and they might want to have access to that. How would you recommend they, uh, learn more about you? Speaker 3 00:33:06 I've got a website that's really easy to remember dream with dan.com, dreaming dan.com and absolutely everything about me there. Um, events feed often doing some live streams and workshops and seminars or virtual at the moment. Um, all my social media links access to my podcast, my books, blogs. I write for a couple of magazines as well. And those are all linked up on dream with dan.com. There's a free resources page as well. They can get some yummy goodness from Speaker 2 00:33:31 All right. That's amazing. Thank you so much for being with us. I just, I can't speak for the listeners. I can say that I feel, um, I feel refreshed from having experienced this conversation and I just want to appreciate you for bringing that, uh, bringing that power to us today. Speaker 3 00:33:52 My voice, I really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you. And thank toilet. Would I call them Dandenongs when I do it? Like Speaker 2 00:34:00 Tangents dying, I'm dying. Speaker 3 00:34:04 Yeah. I do live podcasts all about the law of attraction. I'm a, co-host every Thursday I called LOA today. Um, and uh, when I go from one, then my cohost, if there's a Wharton, Alex, that, oh, here's another danger. But sometimes that's where the yumminess is where the divine speaks most. Right. The question. Speaker 2 00:34:23 Yeah. Hashtag yumminess lives here right Speaker 3 00:34:27 Here. Speaker 2 00:34:28 Right? Exactly. Everybody. Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of refractive. It just, uh, it just means so much that you're on this journey with us. And as you go out from here and experience people who are in need of healing and, uh, and experience yourself in need of healing, remember to be good to each other in always anger, light take care. You have been listening to refractive podcast, and this is Johnny G. If you've enjoyed today's episode, do me a favor, give it a share on social media, or if you're in the podcast app, give it a rating. 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